Building your own private pond


Has anyone done this or been a part of doing this?

Anyone that knows me knows I don't do things halfway. Before I get carried away, I'm looking for tips/tricks to not waste time, effort, and money. Is there anything you would or wouldn't do again?

-I have the land
-Pond size is about an acre 2-8' deep
-Planning on Bluegill, shellcracker, catfish, mosquito minnows, and eventually bass
-Structure in the pond-how much is too much?
-Will fish readily reproduce or do I need to facilitate this with structure?






"Another poon dream splintered on the rocks of reality." --Peepod 07-25-2017
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Cool deal. You'll have fun with it. I'd work on getting the banks seeded to keep the run off from further mudding the water. aluminum sulfate (alum) will work really quick to clarify it by clumping clay particles but normally you'll have to add some lime to bring the PH back up from it. Get some Gypsum and it will also clear up a pond by binding with clay particles. I'll add in my experience most "cat" fish ponds never really "clear" up due to them constantly stirring up the bottom.

I'm still partial to Cypress trees planted at the water line. IMO they are the best way to keeps banks together and look nice. You can hit up most any swamp area that you see some big ones growing and dig your own little ones. Don't go after anything taller than a foot, they have a tap root to China. They grow down before they grow up .

I'm talking all about clearing the water, but remember you don't want it too clear! Dad and I had a dude from DNR and Clemson look a couple over. They said you only want to see a white rag about 18" down.

Another pretty cool additive is the Blue dye you can buy. I've done it once and it lasted almost a year before petering out.

As your Pond gets established, if you start getting a lot of Vegetation/weed growth you may want to get a couple of sterile asian carp. a couple will do, those things get big.
Got everything smoothed out half way decent. Next step is some grass seed to try to establish something this year. Anyone know where to get one of those Hydroseeders to spray it?





Also purchased the feeder this week. I've been hand feeding them a few times a week and its fun watching the little tiny guys come to the feed.



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"Another poon dream splintered on the rocks of reality." --Peepod 07-25-2017
For the hydroseeding, call these cats below, known them forever, in your part of the Lowcountry, will do a great job. Your grading looks nice, btw. Wouldn't hurt to find some cattail and let some seed fly in the fall, will make for good structure/cover for bass fishing, I got plenty.

https://www.charlestongreen.net/green-services

Its a little late now, but an overflow structure, or overflow pipe would help big time if you receive an unusual amount of rain. I personally use flashboard risers, but my situation involves greater volumes of water, and I have to be able to drop the level to work or plant anything. An overflow pipe would prevent the water from spilling over the bank and eroding your nice grade work, not to mention will wash away whatever you decide to overseed with.

Those automatic fish feeders are wonderful, but trouble, I ran a Sweeney directional for better part of a year, had to remove it all because of the abundance of osprey and bald eagles. They knew when the timer was going off, and would perch in the trees around every pond and pick off the fish as they surfaced to feed. Now I keep the feed in a trash can with a scoop and throw it to them whenever, to hell with the birds, I like my catfish.

Good luck!

What would stop me from feeding the fish in the dark so that the predators couldn't easily pick them off? As I type this, I'm thinking back to the time a few years ago I saw an osprey pick up about a 14" flounder in a few inches of water. Yes, this could be a problem.

Fake coyote or fake alligator help this situation?

Another guy I know spent a bunch of time, effort, and money on a beautiful Koi pond in his backyard and was so proud of his accomplishment when he was finally able to put fish in. Less than a week later, he came home from work and two egrets were standing in his pond with most of his fish gone. That's enough to tick you off.




"Another poon dream splintered on the rocks of reality." --Peepod 07-25-2017
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Night feeding is certainly an option, but I enjoyed watching my fish feed, hard to do in the dark.

I reckon a decoy would work for a little while, but when that osprey is sitting in a tree for 3+ hours, and that coyote never moves one inch, day after day, week after week, that osprey will figure it out....
Good advice on the overflow and not too late. Shoot a grade and find your lowest point and cut a small swell with a little rip rap or go even lower and lay a 3-5" pipe. That should be plenty for that size pond.

Looking nice. If you ever want a few Cypress, I'll look around Dad's for some little ones. Hate to say it but I don't think your Island tree will make it with that water level.

If it dies, I was thinking about putting a weeping willow out there. Or does that suck up too much water?




"Another poon dream splintered on the rocks of reality." --Peepod 07-25-2017
If it dies, I was thinking about putting a weeping willow out there. Or does that suck up too much water?




"Another poon dream splintered on the rocks of reality." --Peepod 07-25-2017Originally posted by 23Sailfish-On Probation


They like water, but would not be detrimental to your water level. Dad and I have both tried several species of willow with no success other than the wild non-weeping willow variety. Had a couple of Spiral weeping willows do Ok for a couple years only to die. They are a beautiful tree, but messy and very prone to diseases and fungus infections.

I still think a cypress would be the best then you would ever have to worry about your island eroding away. Cool thing about it, it's your pond and you get to do whatever you Please! smile You'll enjoy it!
Good advice on the overflow and not too late. Shoot a grade and find your lowest point and cut a small swell with a little rip rap or go even lower and lay a 3-5" pipe. That should be plenty for that size pond.



Originally posted by Fred67


mostly enjoying this thread. can i get a ruling or a translation on Fred's post. reminds me of DaMoons
DNR still has the pond management information available online and its a great resource.

https://www.dnr.sc.gov/water/aquaff/fishpond.html

There are a couple of deeper holes dug with the excavator, but nothing crazy. DNR says that anything greater than 10' will contribute heavily to oxygen depletion. I plan on installing an aerator, so this shouldn't be a problem, but even so, I didn't want to go against what they said. I'm certainly learning here.

As for the crappie, for my size pond, they are said to take over and overpopulate quickly. They are also in direct competition with bass for food source and I don't want that.




"Another poon dream splintered on the rocks of reality." --Peepod 07-25-2017Originally posted by 23Sailfish-On Probation


Never would have thought that on the depth. Deeper being cooler and holding more oxygen, especially during these hot summers.

Congrats!

NN